Friday, May 7, 2010

Cordoba Mosque to Open Two Blocks From World Trade Center

Mosque Moves in Two Blocks From World Trade Center

The Mosque's name 'Cordoba' is provocative. It harkens back to a time when Muslim's controlled Spain. After they were driven back from France, Muslims had much of Europe under attack. German Muslims have been reportedly naming their mosques in the same provocative way. One of their favorites is to use the name of the Muslim Turk who successfully conquered Constantinople. Most definitely the intent is to conquer.

Recently there was a disturbance in the old Spanish Cordoba mosque, which has been made into a church. Visiting Muslims students, decided to pray and when they were asked to stop, they instead attacked the guards, one had a knife.

It does smack of the 'take' mentality in Islam. We come to the west to 'take' the west for Islam. Like they took Persia and Egypt. And now we have come to America and Europe to 'take' it. In the western world we look to build, and if they aim to take the west and don't continue with the west's build, invent develop mentality, the the west will end up like all Muslim civilizations, which crashed into nothing. Because most everything they acquired [even knowledge] was from the conquests. Therefore the need for more and more conquests, and particularly of advanced nations. Now Muslims must learn a new way, taking the west will not be as easy as shouting a few obscenities, twirling a sword, and watching Persia fall.

"FINANCIAL DISTRICT — The old Burlington Coat Factory building on Park Place has sat shuttered and empty since the landing gear from a hijacked plane crashed through the roof on 9/11.

Now, a Muslim group hopes to build a mosque and cultural center there, replacing what they see as the worst of Islam with the best.

“We have a vision that is opposite the vision of the extremists,” said Daisy Khan, executive director of the Cordoba Initiative, the group behind the center. “We want to be a driving force for the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan.”

Community Board 1’s Financial District Committee embraced the center’s message of tolerance and voted unanimously Wednesday night to support the project.

“Finally we can get that ugly space taken care of,” said Pat Moore, a member of the committee who lives nearby."

But other members of the community, who did not attend Wednesday’s meeting, want the mosque to find a different home.

“It doesn’t belong down here,” said Rosemary Cain, whose firefighter son was killed on 9/11. “It makes me sick to think the city would allow such a thing.”

While Cain acknowledged that “not every person who is Muslim is a terrorist,” she thinks the Muslim community as a whole never sufficiently declaimed the attacks.

John Schmidt, 29, a construction worker who is rebuilding the World Trade Center, also got angry when he heard about the plans.

“No way,” he said. “Muslims bombed the towers. Why would they put a mosque next to the Freedom Tower?”

Khan envisions the $100 million, 100,000-square-foot Cordoba House as much more than a mosque: She wants it to be a gathering place for the entire downtown community, including residents, workers and tourists, whether they are Muslim or not.

The 13-story center, which could open as soon as 2013 at 45 Park Place, will include a 500-seat auditorium, a basketball court, a swimming pool and a kitchen for cooking classes. Khan hopes to host interfaith conferences and panels along with more lighthearted events like a Muslim Idol talent competition.

Iqbal Hossain Chowdhury, 42, who runs a newsstand on Park Place, said the center would provide much-needed education for Muslims as well as non-Muslims.

“People read the Koran and they don’t know the meaning,” said Chowdhury, who is Muslim. “It is good for them to learn — to learn is best.”

Matt Migeal, 39, who was selling 9/11 photo books in front of the World Trade Center on Wednesday, also thought it was good for the mosque to move in.

“This didn’t happen because of Muslim people,” Migeal said, gesturing toward the site. “Terrorism and Islam have nothing to do [with each other].”

The Cordoba Initiative already runs a mosque on West Broadway and started holding weekly services in the new Park Place space last year. As the services grow, they could attract up to 2,000 people, Khan said.

The Cordoba Initiative is already working with the NYPD on security.

Khan said she has heard very little criticism of the center so far, though she added that Saturday’s attempted Times Square bombing didn’t help.

“Events like [Times Square] always set us back,” Khan said. “Leaders have to push back in the other direction, and that’s what we’re trying to do.”

Mosque to Open Two Blocks From World Trade Center -


zibish said...

Anonymous said...

Great cartoons,zibish :)

Anonymous said...

Anyone stop to think how much explosives they can fit in a 13-story building? They can wipe out all of Manhattan. And you know that even though it's being built as a "place of peace" that every extremist asshole on the planet is going to go there to ask Allah for strength before they kill another busload of orphans or something.

Vincent of Runcorn said...

The problem is precisely the provocative name. It is not a spiritual or cultural centre for people FROM Cordoba. Moslems now go TO Cordoba to cause trouble.
The name is chosen deliberately to refer to the dispute over the (Christian) cathedral in Cordoba in Spain. It is a manufactured cause celebre, and the name is used to remind and niggle every day you enter or even just pass the site.
Parts of the Cordoba cathedral used to be a mosque. But before that, it was the site of a cathedral that the conquering Moslems destroyed. The ‘Reconquering’ Christians of Spain were a lot more sensitive than the Turks were with the Church of the Twelve Apostles in Constantinople. They flattened that. Today, there is a lot more mosque left to see in Cordoba than church in Istanbul. Oh, and all those nice columns that the horseshoe arches are squatting on? They’re Roman. So maybe the Moslems would like to see sacrifices to Jupiter or Mars taking place alongside them. That is, if it is a game of whom the individual bits of stonework first belonged to.

The best comment on this politically manufactured dispute over the cathedral in Cordoba is this from the blog ‘Fr Hunwicke’s Liturgical Notes:’ This shows how provocative and not eirenic, this name is intended to be:

“16 June 2010
Cordoba Cathedral: the Hunwicke solution

“My first instinct, when reading of the proposal that Moslems be allowed to worship in Cordoba Cathedral, on the grounds that they built it (on the site of a church which they had demolished), was: how right the Bishop of Cordoba is to refuse it.

Celebrating the Eucharist in a former mosque can be a joyous experience; I remember, in Crete, many years ago, going to the Liturgy in the Church of S Titus, which still retained all the glorious architectural and decorative features of the mosque it had been ([again, of course] built on the site of a church)… …But then I wondered about the possibility of a world-wide game of musical chairs. Cordoba Cathedral, the Bishop of Cordoba could promise, would be handed over to the Moslems on the very self-same day when Hagia Sophia and all other sites in Constantinople originally devoted to Byzantine worship are restored to the See of S Andrew.”

And why not?